Ever wondered what an 'intellectual orgasm' feels like? Or the struggle between chasing an end goal and savoring the journey? Our chat on pursuing passions is no less exhilarating. We liken dedication to a cause as tantamount to marriage and explore the liberating sensation that comes when you let go of the fear of public humiliation. Then, we shift gears onto some not-so-ordinary terrain, probing into UFOs, aliens and the secrets the government might be hiding. We even talk about Trump and what his election could mean for the world of extraterrestrial information.
Lastly, we tackle the tricky terrains of self-promotion, handling criticism and remind ourselves (and you) not to take ourselves too seriously. We bare our souls about the challenges of promoting our own work, share some hilarious instances from our stand-up sets, and discuss how even negative reviews can be a stepping stone to growth. We wrap up with a candid talk about the adrenaline rush of validation and how, sometimes, extreme behavior can be oddly fascinating. So, brace yourself, sit tight, and let's peel back the layers of comedy, passion, and the unexplainable.
Ever wondered what an 'intellectual orgasm' feels like? Or the struggle between chasing an end goal and savoring the journey? Our chat on pursuing passions is no less exhilarating. We liken dedication to a cause as tantamount to marriage and explore the liberating sensation that comes when you let go of the fear of public humiliation. Then, we shift gears onto some not-so-ordinary terrain, probing into UFOs, aliens and the secrets the government might be hiding. We even talk about Trump and what his election could mean for the world of extraterrestrial information.
Lastly, we tackle the tricky terrains of self-promotion, handling criticism and remind ourselves (and you) not to take ourselves too seriously. We bare our souls about the challenges of promoting our own work, share some hilarious instances from our stand-up sets, and discuss how even negative reviews can be a stepping stone to growth. We wrap up with a candid talk about the adrenaline rush of validation and how, sometimes, extreme behavior can be oddly fascinating. So, brace yourself, sit tight, and let's peel back the layers of comedy, passion, and the unexplainable.
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Speaker 2:you've said numerous times, probably five, six episodes hey, it's time for a new song, because I've heard other beats that John has done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that I like. Sure, that's Kanye's 2008 graduation. We were working making you know that kind of auto tune, and now I yeah, I know we're on a new thing, I just want to buy one, some bongos.
Speaker 2:Maybe we need to hit Mr Pope up again and say, hey, can you freshen this up? He's busy man.
Speaker 1:Have you seen sex bruise Instagram. Yeah it's like 40,000 people. That's crazy. That's a town. If you got all the people on, that's a town of people like a fire department and all of them.
Speaker 2:guess what they have in common? They all like sex bruise yeah they do.
Speaker 1:That's the town right there. Yeah, right, we got a right A town of sex bruise. Yeah, and that's amazing. So I don't think he's gonna, because when he made that, I think they had five people, he had time. He had time because people have been doing comedy. Yeah, they hadn't recognized the greatness of the band.
Speaker 2:He doesn't even know where the sparrow is anymore. What he's like? Comedy I perform.
Speaker 1:I'm a rock star across this great nation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is Josh Bates, dan Sweeney. Welcome to Low Country, low Lives. This is your first time listening to the podcast. We apologize, yeah, for what I mean. Your life has to be in a weird situation.
Speaker 1:Twisting some turns to get to this part of iTunes.
Speaker 2:Spotify. Here you are, like you could have listened to a lot.
Speaker 1:A lot, but we thank you. Yeah, we're desperate.
Speaker 2:We are. We apologize Every time we get on here. We apologize for not doing the show enough. Yeah, what? And we need to fix that.
Speaker 1:Well, we're lazy, we are.
Speaker 2:But who isn't? I mean, we got things going on. Yeah, you got married. You went to Hawaii. Yeah, you know I'm a little busy with the 14 kids that I have. Yep Run a comedy venue.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have a lot of things.
Speaker 2:I did a comedy album. Yeah, that took up. That happened. We didn't talk about it on the podcast. No pancake carpet motherfuckers coming out August 11 to a tower records near you. Yeah, I'm going to try to sell it at some record stores.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's just. If you're in New York City, he's going to be like one of those guys on the sidewalk.
Speaker 2:Listen to my note the gas station I'm going to go to any gas station. Oh yeah, that's the place to do it, right when you're pumping gas. I'm going to be like yo listen to this.
Speaker 1:Hey man, will you listen to my pancake carpet? I'm going to put the headphones on them and then you'll put they'll put the disk in your computer to listen to it, because that's all you can an old computer and you'll steal all their credit card data.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're alien and I'm going to share it with. That's really what the listeners.
Speaker 1:The CDs are about is stealing, identity theft. Identity theft, that's me, aside from, obviously, the the brilliant comedy that's on it Brilliant.
Speaker 2:No, it comes. So pre orders are July 4th. So if you have Apple Music, I don't even care if you listen to the album, just download it. Just hit pre order and then on August 11th it just appears on your phone, yeah, and then I get the credit that you downloaded it. So the suits in Hollywood know that I'm that I sold five albums.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I command attention. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Like hey, look at me. Big things of small beginnings, that's what my penis says constantly. Me too. Yeah Well, it doesn't me too. It's not a me too penis.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's a but it. It has similar experiences as other growers, not showers, not the whole thing, with the force and the you were.
Speaker 2:You surprised me that night. I did. Did we talk about this? I don't think we did.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I haven't heard the show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you were on your honeymoon, I was, and I didn't think you were like hey, yeah, I'm not going to yeah, I'm not coming. I'm not coming, I'll be here and I was like All right, so it's the second show. The second show was better, I had felt good. And then I get off stage and I'm walking back and there's Dan Sweeney. There I am and you're like hey, bud, good job. And I'm like Holy shit. And I and I gave you like the longest hug.
Speaker 1:That was a good moment. I like that. Yeah, just in the universe, pure friendship. Yeah, it was good to see you. I was happy for you, yeah, and I'd snuck in before and I had seen you. It's crazy, but I didn't want to. I was like I'm just going to let him be in the zone. I'm not going to come up and be like by the way, I'm here. Yeah, interrupt that. So I was happy that that was exciting and I wanted to leave throughout the day, so I was like.
Speaker 1:God damn it. I was fun, a lot of fun, and I've called you and I've told you that, yeah, in a sincere way, which normally, whenever we talk, it's it's not sincere sincerity Most of the time it's mostly just racial slurs and shooting the shit and talking about how we want to kill ourselves.
Speaker 1:But that was a nice, sincere moment and getting to see you do that was very cool. It felt good, regardless of how people no-transcript Feel, because this is the scary part. This is what I'm scared of, just in general. For me, yeah, is you put something out there, people will like it, and then other people are just gonna shit on you for no reason other than they're just cunts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're like oh, mr Album guy, look who tried put himself out there.
Speaker 1:It is literally, you know, quote-unquote going for it. Sure, why don't I make him feel bad?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hope people back in like high school yeah, just out of morbid curiosity, and that they hate me yeah, download it. That'd be amazing. That's the win. That's the win. That's the win, right there. I want them to do that because I have a fantasy that I'm gonna be in the top 100 comedy albums for the week. Yeah, and that's amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah even if it's 100, and the people who are just like I'm gonna listen, so then I can say something specific or just shit on it or that's great and then in turn in hurting you.
Speaker 2:They helped me, helped you. Yeah, that's what I want. So, hey, I know there's at least one person out there. Yeah, jeff, yeah, jeff, I, I know you're listening. Yeah, gary, and I'm glad you're listening to this and I and I'm glad you're gonna listen to the album.
Speaker 2:Was there a Jeff and the Gary you don't like no, well, my dad, gary, gary, fuck you Gary, yeah, um, great, but it's Gary. Gary's a show fuckable name, yeah. But anyway, that was a really cool I. That was a really neat moment when you were there. I made it special, and then I went home and Felt empty inside and then there was the nothing. There was nothing, the back to the nothing back to. Nothing.
Speaker 1:It was the build-up of the thing. And then there was back to yeah, oh, this is yeah. No, now life, because it takes on like this little fantasy aspect of like a dream and it's like this, it's not real. It's almost like this surreal thing that's. It's like getting married. Yeah, we're like this. All this of me I got, I was, I got depressed, like after the honeymoon, from the wedding and then everybody's so happy, yeah, and it was both of our families together and like you know, yeah, and they all, they were all so proud of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're just happy for you, yeah, full like all these, and then it's over and then we jet it off, and then we go to Hawaii, which we can't afford, but we're like we're going, we're just not gonna think about the consequences. We're doing it. We're doing it and then we come back and it was immediately like we came. I think Friday was when you shot the special. Yeah, that's Saturday stuck in traffic.
Speaker 1:No, I was back in the shop building an elevator and then going home and Shitting with the door open and eating Takeout Chinese and just being like oh and three days later You're like oh, this is it's over.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of others. The baby blues that women get postpartum. Well, I mean, postpartum is very complicated, mm-hmm. But there is a part where you know everything is special and oh my god, yeah, can't believe you're having a baby and then you have the baby and then it goes away.
Speaker 1:It's still sad, like the nature of existence and all of that, and the loss of dreams and disappointment and, yeah, carrying those things not being enough all around all day. Yeah, and then there's these little moments of life where those are Completely decide they evaporate, yeah, and you conquer them in a way and you become better than those things, and then they go away and you're stuck with the rest of those moments. Yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah really.
Speaker 1:It makes it all worth it.
Speaker 2:It does. Yeah, there was there's about an hour and a half that I felt great with that album release and then it went away and Then, like people would come up, like you know, it opened my can be like, hey, I'm sorry, I missed your special. Hmm, I'm like, oh cool, you know no big deal. Yeah, like Heard, it was great. And I was like, yeah, it was cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was happy for a few minutes yeah and then I was just like this I don't even want to talk about it, yeah. And then hearing it, that was weird. So, like you, you record your album and then you work with your sound engineers and you tweak it and dabble and hearing it over and over and over, you're tired of it, oh it's weird, it's it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is gonna be worse, but but it was still weird. Yeah, that is gonna be a lot like yucky feeling Mm-hmm, but I was. I'm really glad it's. It's just done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, most people don't have to hear themselves as much as you hear yourself, or? Yeah like I listen to stuff that I've done and I listen to my voice. You're just like oh, who's this kind of this fucking fuckface? This freckled Fagola, you know? Yeah, it's real, it's real, fagola. Ginger fiduciary, yeah, fucking fiduciary. Lafagota, great Mexican restaurant.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, great, it's a. Isn't that a Mexican Italian place? It's like a fusion.
Speaker 1:No, strictly Mexican. Oh yeah, okay, it's all the day. Laborers out on Kiowa, yeah, go to this little that's the Fagota, I know okay. Fagota, I know is at Rosebank farms off bow Hicket.
Speaker 2:All right, shout out yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm a real Fagota for Lafagota.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, all right.
Speaker 1:But it's been a me. It's been cool to watch meeting you outside the sparrow ripping darts. To Now you don't rip darts. Yeah you got a baby. You know you put out a comedy special. Did it? You've been? Yeah, you've been inspiring, thank you. And a lot of ways kind of like an older brother. I never had an older brother, so you've always Felt like that in a way. Oh, so it's been cool just to witness you Bet on yourself and then follow through with. That Felt good being a real Fagota about it now.
Speaker 2:But fucking Fagota dude. Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up. I'm fucking embarrassing me.
Speaker 1:You do you like compliments or you are you uncomfortable by them?
Speaker 2:No, I highly enjoy.
Speaker 1:I'm hiding my boner, yeah, well your nipples aren't, because all those are the tell constantly hard.
Speaker 2:Constantly hard. No, I mean, compliments are great, I Mean, that's why I do this. I don't, you know, I'm trying to, you know, fill a void in my, you know my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but do you ever have the feeling that when some somebody's complimenting you, they're saying it Not because they truly mean it for you be, but because there's an ulterior motive?
Speaker 2:one thousand percent. I have that too.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, that might be a trust issue thing. Yeah, it's good, it's absolutely a trust thing, because you know therapy.
Speaker 2:Have you ever mentioned that to the no, we don't ever get that far to the theory now we get right to the fam.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah fam and PTSD.
Speaker 2:They're like oh boy, okay it's not symptoms, it's causes. Yeah, but no, it's definitely trust. I mean, I want people to accept me and I want people to be proud. And then I immediately Question do you know who?
Speaker 1:that person is that you want to be proud.
Speaker 2:Oh, my parents, yeah, 100% yeah. And then they never did so.
Speaker 1:I just still wherever will be at that point. Right, it's a certain point, don't you have to like? Let that go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I mean, that's the goal. I mean, the goal is for all of us to let go of our Childhood trauma and, and we don't know why would we yeah, no, but it's a Constantly, especially producing comedy and trying to be a comedian. Mm-hmm. It sucks, because I constantly am like are you just saying you like this because you want me to book you? Yeah, you're bi-special.
Speaker 1:He's straddling two sides of the thing.
Speaker 2:Very weird and other people do it, but it's like I want you to like me as a comic, yeah, but I also want you to like me and respect me as a producer. But like I don't know, like what's your motive, what's your? What do you got behind?
Speaker 1:that? Yeah, what are you? Is it this guy or that guy?
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, so that sucks, yeah, and I feel I always feel empty, constantly empty. Dan, Like I can't tell you I can have a killer show, get in my car and almost cry Like just driving home, just feeling empty. None of it feels like the good feeling goes away instantly.
Speaker 1:Well, it's a hit of a drug.
Speaker 2:That's all it is. But then it's a downer, Then it's immediately what the fuck am I doing? Well, it's the adrenaline cause.
Speaker 1:you get that and then there's a mind, just kind of cause. After that there's a surge of a chemical, a adrenochrome. No, that's the thing that they. No, it's adrenaline. Oh, yeah, and then there's also Cortisol and serotonin and dopamine and all those things, and then, yeah, it drains out of you and your brain's a gray shriveled.
Speaker 2:It's like after yeah, it's after an orgasm.
Speaker 1:It's just like oh God, I'm gross and sticky, it is masturbatory and it is like an intellectual gasm of sorts.
Speaker 1:And then it's gone, you're left and you're sad and you're why did I say that? Why did I do that, jesus? Yeah, but every now and then you have that thing where you step back from that and you're probably maybe a bit more not spiritual. But you know, you just it sucks. It's hard to do things in life that you're afraid of doing and then commit to those things. I mean it's sort of, I mean it's marriage. In a sense it's the pursuing of a thing in the hopes that down the road it will not destroy you.
Speaker 2:I want constant validation. I want constant I'm doing okay and my path, that I'm what I'm doing, is acceptable. Because, yeah, like I had this core memory that I unlocked not long ago where I was in high school and I was at a friend's house and their uncle came over and he was a standup comedian and he was horrible, oh yeah, and he was practicing in front of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's fucking weird.
Speaker 2:But he was horrible and I always thought it was funny and sad that he was. This old guy doing comedy and look at you now.
Speaker 2:And here I am doing that and I'm like I wonder if, like the guys back in high school, are like this guy doing fucking comedy shows at bars yeah, fucking, grow up, dude, like my uncle. Yeah, and it's like so that, in a way, like the album was to validate hey, I'm serious about this, this is what I'm doing, and it won't fill that void. It won't feel that, oh, okay, now I'm Well.
Speaker 1:I think anybody's talked about it and the deeper you go into the trip, the more scary and rewarding it'll be, but there'll always be that absence of a thing.
Speaker 2:I think that's just life in general, even if I get on Jimmy Kimmel one day, it's oh God, oh okay, wow, I'm on Jimmy. You know like it never. There's never time where I'm gonna be like, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 1:Oh, now I'm okay, now I'm good, now I'm enough.
Speaker 2:I'm enough, mom dad. Hey, guess what? I'm good, don't worry about it guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've released this many things. Therefore I am, but you'll never be until you are.
Speaker 2:I can't remember Janet and I were talking about it was maybe a quote we saw but I've always been about the product, the final painting, never the enjoying the process of painting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you like the destination rather than the journey. Yeah, that's tough, that's very tough. Because really the journey is.
Speaker 2:That's what life is.
Speaker 1:It's like that, freud, or was it Nietzsche? Friedrich Nietzsche, it was one of those two Yocles who said one day you'll look back on all your years of struggle and you'll realize those are the happiest days of your life. Something to that effect, which is that sucks Well, at the end of it you know you're swimming, you're swimming, and you finally get to land and then you go. Oh, I'm just on land.
Speaker 2:It was never. Yeah. And then you I never embraced and tried to remember all that swimming. Yeah, I've just been so concentrated on getting to land.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing that is the most exciting kind of about life is when you're like, acutely present. I remember we talked about once about war. You were telling me about war, yeah, and there's this weird like you look back and it's terrifying and it's fucked you up but you also go. It was also the most alive I've ever been in a way Sure.
Speaker 1:And you like almost like it's like the Hurt Locker guy you kind of you romanticize it or you chase that, or because it's not. Like you just came back and you're like now I'll just be an accountant or something. You're like, oh, I'm gonna go do something that nobody else really wants to do, which is to get up on stage by myself with my own vulnerable material and do that. That's how all unwind from trauma, by drawing into Into a mini Traumas and a sort of traumatic situation because public speaking is or humiliated.
Speaker 1:That public humiliation I think is is one of people's greatest fears. I was listening to a Mel Gibson Interview. Yeah, cuz, what a great. Not only a great actor, but just a great human, great director great husband, just a humanitarian.
Speaker 1:Humanitarian. You know what I? I always realize he's just a great follower in Christ and Not a guy not afraid to speak the truth. But he was talking about how people's biggest fear isn't necessarily death or it, but it's the fear of being humiliated publicly. Okay which is what, if we don't do, you bomb. That's public humiliation. Yeah, it doesn't get worse than that. So anybody says once you let go of that, then you're truly free. So I think it's just shedding layers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't let some of that go. That's interesting, yeah Good, hey, suck more comedy. You and I did a show recently. Yeah, that fucking sucked. Oh yeah, that was bad. It was a horrible show, horrible venue, horrible setup, horrible everything it was horrible, I bombed, yeah, that was bad. It was so trash and I was embarrassed, and if it didn't feel good and I didn't just say fuck it, who cares? This is just a moment. Yeah, no, I was upset. Yeah, that's not healthy. I should have just been like hey, whatever.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the yeah. It's hard to be free, you know yeah because there's always the critic of what will other people think.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I just think, when that's who you're Curtain, or curtailing everything to?
Speaker 2:other people. Amateur comics have this thing and I'm an amateur comic myself, but we have this thing that's like, ah, whatever, cool, it's part of the process. But you know, I think about that and I see these people. You know, being 42 with three kids, I see how hard it is to get out, hmm, and to like get a babysitter, to like line up a date with my wife, yeah, and I'm like, hey, let's go. You know what, let's take a chance on stand-up comedy. My wife's like I don't know. And I'm like, babe, I think it'd be kind of fun, let's do it. She's like you know what? Okay, we'll go to that. Yeah, so I spent 60, 70 bucks on fucking babysitting. Yeah, we go have a nice little dinner and you get the tickets and get the tickets if $300 in the hole right now, yeah, 300 bucks.
Speaker 2:I sit down and I go to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm like what the fuck is this? That's understandable. I could have went. I could have just watched Netflix. I could have watched the fucking you know, kevin Hart. Yeah be Kevin Hart.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. People said he's a clone. Have you heard that? This is interesting thing where people say they're clones. Yeah and I mentioned that to my wife. My wife, yeah, and she was like so they're just cloning them at the age of there's just a 40 year old clone, Like Joe Biden's a clone. They're just like yeah, we have this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, his ear is earlobe, Half retarded clone. But yeah, it bothers me.
Speaker 1:I get. Well, that's interesting because you're seeing it from the producer side. Well it also the side of a. It's not necessarily producer, but just the side of a person who you're performing to yeah you know, a fully formed adult in a Way yeah, they're vulnerable.
Speaker 2:They're in these dumb little chairs in this fucking shady bar. Yeah, like they want to be entertained.
Speaker 1:They want to laugh, they want to get away from the kids. They don't want to hear your half baked Shit jokes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they want to hear good comedy. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and that's Hard to come by happen last night. Dustin Nickerson, Holy fuck, yeah you missed the show.
Speaker 1:I did, I did. I'm bummed. I missed out who's good Dustin Nickerson and big dick, steve Rogers and big dick, comedy. And then, yeah, sarah Hartman.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they did well, they all did well. I was like wow Line wrapped around the building, dan.
Speaker 1:I saw the yeah, I saw the story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we, I was like go get that on film right now.
Speaker 1:You know what I was watching? Documentary on UFOs. Oh yeah, yeah, Hell yeah dude and Left me empty. Yeah, I thought I was like this will you know when you watch something? You?
Speaker 2:like this will fill something, or I'm very careful with those like when I watch those, I'm like if, like big for the Bigfoot shows, yeah, I'm like if they would have found Bigfoot Mm-hmm, it would have been big.
Speaker 1:Well, this one's interesting because it's about like this one in Brazil. Yeah, I was talking about how this whole town like saw it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, saw it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they took the guy back to the place and he's like I don't want to talk about it, but they like brought him out of hiding and he went back to the place where he found the craft and stuff and he started crying. You know, it's just this chubby Brazilian guy, so he's either like this amazing, amazing actor or Something really happened to him.
Speaker 1:And then there was these three girls and they've ducted or no, he just found the crash and like any and he was, and he picked up the material and crumpled it up and it was like otherworldly because it was like tinfoil, but then like it would go back exactly into the shape he found it. So we could like you know Otherworldly stuff. And then these three girls like came across, this creature and this guy who was like you know, he worked for the military but he's a, he's a part of this town. You got to cut this dog's nails.
Speaker 2:Well, no.
Speaker 1:I mean it's the floor. It is the floor yeah fine hardwoods in this floor. Yeah, final, yeah, I'm good vinyl whatever. But then so this guy touches the alien and he died and it was this whole whole thing. But there's no Proof yeah cuz the proof is hit. That's the whole thing. Yeah, is there? Like people are hiding things. And you're like, okay, so where's the evidence? And I'm like we're just telling you Look at all this, Look at what the people are saying. You're like it's just anecdotal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you're like all right and I've gone down the rabbit hole. We're all you look at crafts and you're like all that could be. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I believe I want to believe.
Speaker 2:Well, I believe I mean they've already said it. They said and we talked about on the show what do they?
Speaker 1:call them UAPs. They're UFOs. Dude, I'm not doing. They're you, they're fucking you a pluto's a planet and their, you know and the. Ufos Get it and people who cross it the border illegally are aliens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get it. The government said, hey, yeah, there's shit out there. We don't know what it is. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But then you also go, then you like sigh up yourself, you go. Well, what do they really distract? You know, that's the big thing.
Speaker 2:What are we gonna distract it from? Trump would have told us no, Trump had nothing to lose. He's down in fucking Mar-a-Largo like giving everyone fucking I think we give.
Speaker 1:See the. The thing is like, I think people, even on the, on the left or whatever, they give him more benefit of the doubt to the rogue character he is. He's a businessman. He will still, he will be bought and sold for just like any other president.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you, I would have almost voted for him if he was like oh hey, guess what? There's fucking aliens. I'd been like tell me more, Donald. And he's like if you vote for me, I'll fucking give you more information. Guess what? I'd probably vote for him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I vote for him just on policy alone. But that would be the cherry on top.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I mean for real though, just like that. The JFK thing was interesting that he said, hey, I'm gonna, I'm gonna release this shit, yeah. And then he's like and then they showed him and he's like no. I can't show you that this is yeah, that was nuts, that's the CIA dude.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, we, yeah, rfk. Right now he's going down the line his uncle and his dad went down where he's speaking truth to power. He's going all like, hey, vaccines are bad and this is why. And then the kind of backs and backs it up with evidence and he's like this whole country is a cabal of lizard people.
Speaker 1:You know in his voice yeah and I'm like man and he's running for president yeah, he's gonna get shot, yeah, yeah, and then they left. Is gonna be like we loved him. He was gonna be our guy, but we gotta.
Speaker 2:Confiscate guns?
Speaker 1:No, let's just go theories as to what we think I part of me. It's like I could see Michelle Obama all of a sudden like entering the race. They need someone and that they're just like Michelle and she's like okay, no, she's like fuck that I think she doesn't want it. Oh, come on, dude, sasha. And what, malia? Yeah, they're out of the house. She's got nothing. It's just her and Barack. What are they doing? He's just sitting there smoking new ports like Dude. He ripped darts.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, lots of them, yeah, yeah, I mean, he didn't. He's like Walt Disney. You know like they try to like scrub it from history. Yeah, but he, he smoked the new ports.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I like that Hell. I think, keep it in history. Yeah, I love, I love that. That's one of the reasons I voted for him, because he, he ripped darts.
Speaker 2:You're like all right this guy's, he's like me. Yeah, UFOs yeah, they're real, they are. I mean, they've been, we've set they are there are flying objects.
Speaker 1:I've told you about my stories with them. You laugh. You scoffing me. I didn't scoff, you scoffed a little bit.
Speaker 2:I mean, you go there's a lot of things in the sky.
Speaker 1:Yes, but they don't come plummeting down to earth in a brilliance of Fiery bliss and then just go. What the fuck was that?
Speaker 2:That's what asteroids do.
Speaker 1:It wasn't an asteroid. I've seen asteroids. I've seen shooting stars.
Speaker 2:Yeah asteroids. They don't like break up or something like that, or Russia, the ones that like look like fireballs coming down.
Speaker 1:Well, the ones in Russia, they're like Russian meteors, they. The atmosphere in Russia is like shitty and communist, so it just breaks the Russian meteor. Come, fuck you up yeah it just hits a building and explodes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it wasn't, it wasn't like that. It was silent, yeah, and it was close and it was. And I was with a person and we both looked at one another. We were like, what was that? And normally there's a streak in the sky. If it was, if it was like that Russian meteor that came so close that it looked like it was landing down behind trees, yeah, there would be some sort of sonic boom or some Thrush of wind that would knock us back, but there was nothing.
Speaker 1:It was just silence and crickets, fireworks. Is this? Are you kind of like a dog during this time? Here we freak out a little bit? No, is apparent it pisses me off.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yeah. When you have a like a ten-month old upstairs trying to sleep, yeah, this shit's going on, and then the dog loses his shit. Yeah, yeah, I'm surprised you. Uncle Dan's here but he probably go to the room here in a minute. He doesn't like, no, no, he doesn't like that shit. Hmm.
Speaker 1:I would see what we've been thinking about getting the dog right, yeah, because we need that in our lives, because that'll maybe help fill the void yeah that's why I think you have children right, because there's a void in life, that's just inescapable. Absolutely the. The unexplainable nature of consciousness and your purpose in regards to that makes you want to have dogs and kids and a home and stuff like that it would be a constant battle of human nature.
Speaker 2:Yeah, literally nature.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're programmed to want those things, yeah, so that's how we survive and thrive and all that stuff. But we even think about getting the dog and I want to get the dog, as you know, as a puppy. I want some like five-year-old dog with somebody else's Childhood trauma downloaded into wood or something like that yeah you open a mountain, do and it shutters because knows you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's gonna get beaten or something, sure, but I want to bring it like to the shop. You know why, work and turn the saws on and everything and get it used to that environment so it's not so it's not afraid.
Speaker 2:Be a shop dog? Yeah, I love.
Speaker 1:I love a shop cat and a shop dog. Yeah, maybe a shop rooster too. Well, shop rooster, shop goat. I like being around animals to hold like doctor, do little.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a little fucking shack, a elevator shack. Yeah, I'm a little elevator shack and you got 15 animals in there and they're like hey, you can't, it smells like shit.
Speaker 1:Or you're not cleaning any of this up. Yeah, it's just hay and animal shit and stuff. Yeah, he's not happy.
Speaker 2:He's like I'm.
Speaker 1:It's alright, buddy, hey, tuffy put that down, You're okay bud.
Speaker 2:What's he got? Babies. Oh, baby's gone, yeah he's like no, my toy now. Yeah, he doesn't know what to do right now. We might need to take a break, you break?
Speaker 1:You want positive for a second help him out. Let's pause, we'll be right back All right.
Speaker 2:Well, tough, he's alive. Yeah, he's fine. It's fireworks going off.
Speaker 1:He's not happy about it, I get it, though I used to be like Tuffy when I first moved here.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I wasn't used to it. I was a Connecticut boy, you know. Yeah, you know there's no fireworks up there. Mm-hmm so it sounds like these are from in Newtown.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, I just the same as Colorado. You're not even allowed to say firework. Yeah it's a $50 fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but people. But here Dude amen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sounds like hell, sounds like Fallujah.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, brother, I love that name Fallujah, fallujah, it's just a great, it's a good name.
Speaker 2:You should, you should visit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was thought. Well, I wanted to go to Syria, yeah, and then Afghanistan well, you know, it's funny to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we go to Germany. Mm-hmm, like, ah, you know, germany, it's nice, good people there. Yeah, look, they made a few mistakes. Want to be weird if, like, our grandkids are like oh dad, you guys should come down to Iraq. Yeah, well it's really cool.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think it is interesting because I think, I don't know, germany was way worse to a group of people than Iraq was to a group of people. Yeah, because Germany's More evolved.
Speaker 2:Well, there was a genocide in there was they didn't do it like the Germans. No, they didn't have it system. They didn't have a panache system at eyes and system systemic no, not systemic.
Speaker 1:The, the, the mice, the my station, the systemization. Okay, yeah, that's a Germans hat.
Speaker 2:That's a German's.
Speaker 1:Oh, fish to yeah, yeah. No, we've been big locomotive. Um put a lot of weights on the locomotive we did this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we did it. Here we are. Yeah, I we're here.
Speaker 1:That's a big part of life is just showing up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think this episode's good. I think we talked about things. Yeah, sure, what do you? Yeah, you got anything coming up.
Speaker 1:I just like being indoors.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is nice, we're in the house.
Speaker 1:This is bad wing weather, you know when it sticks the ball's just stick to the legs and just holds on.
Speaker 2:Those little octopus you'd get in the 25 cent little machines.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just all webbed and it's like a Wuhan bat down there. Nobody wants to be a part of that. It smells and you might get a virus from it.
Speaker 2:You were. So what do you got to plug? You got anything coming up? No, I don't. Hell, yeah, dude.
Speaker 1:I'll still doing that recording thing with my wife.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, pen. Yeah, I'd like to have you on some time. That's on Spotify, right?
Speaker 1:And iTunes. Oh okay, I'm making them compete, all right, yeah, no offer letters yet but you got to start like a webpage, not a webpage.
Speaker 2:You don't promote it at all. The only way are you good with that? So you just kind of like people and one or two people know about it and you know, I think we're still finding the footing and everything like that.
Speaker 1:And it's the same thing Like you're kind of going through with the releasing of the album, you're walking through it and I'm still paralyzed by it, where you know it's putting yourself out there with a thing and you're showing people. You're like this is what we do with our time and this is what we I'd like. We'd like more. We'd like more of your take up more of your time. Would you give us your time? And you know it's thinking of the things good and both of us we doubt each other severely.
Speaker 1:I think to a point where it's maybe a bit delusional as to like how bad you are or how un-given talented you are.
Speaker 2:I kind of like perused it. Yeah, I didn't listen to it like I listened to the same Weenie show. I listened to that one pretty good one episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it wasn't very good. That wasn't very good either I liked it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought you were onto something. Maybe no, you were. You were onto something. It had that, that Chappelle podcast. I don't think that even is going on in that miracle. Yeah, I had that kind of feeling.
Speaker 1:Well, it had local artists and musical breaks and it was short and little skits.
Speaker 2:It was good and it was one episode you got a little long on the tooth, you sounded like your own cocaine. Okay, I'm just, I'm just remember it like one was really good, yeah. And then one was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 1:I think one. I went off on the vaccines and government mandates and things and it's hard to podcast alone it is.
Speaker 2:It's hard to rant. Well, to riff, you can't riff alone. It's hard to riff alone.
Speaker 1:It is a psychotic place in a sense, because like it's like solid, you're willingly putting yourself in a room, you're reconfinement and you're like I'm just going to talk to me.
Speaker 2:That you were doing a character, kind of yeah, I was trying, I mean, you're trying some, it's the fully formed thing. That's what was great. I liked it, and then I thought you were on the well.
Speaker 1:And then it's the promotion thing. I was talking to another comic, liam Baker, a promotion and wanting to do that and you don't like doing it. But you realize I think maybe this is where your military background and what you need to do. There are things on a checklist I need to take and do in order to get to the objective of this. And you are disciplined in being like I'm going to promote it. I don't want to do it, but I'm going to do it, and when it's ready to promote, I will. And I think you say this with a bunch of people around here. You're like, if you don't put yourself out there or promote or try and make a thing happen, it's not going to happen. So I mean, it's not an excuse at this point. It's either nut up or shut up.
Speaker 2:If you want it to be in a vacuum, it's okay, that's life, if that's your goal. But if you want people to hear it, you got to let people know about it.
Speaker 1:And it will. And that's like going for the promotion at work or you're like I'm ready for this. And you know, I think sometimes you think like you have to think it's like the balance of well, I'm good enough. So, therefore, because maybe then, as opposed to being like I'm not, so I need to grind this out and put it out there and maybe it'll be all right. And if people don't like it, that's part of the journey. Like, part of the journey is, you know, builds. I think it builds a little character and gives you a little tooth. If you're like hey, like I went through a part of my life. I put myself out there and nobody, like they'd made people upset. They hated me, Me putting something out there on the internet, it pissed people off. If they hated, they got upset at me. What?
Speaker 2:are you talking about?
Speaker 1:Well, it's just interesting, like. I think like if I put something out there and then people like oh you suck. Yeah, instead of being. You know that that. That thinking scares me. It's crushing as opposed to and then. But you're what happens? Then you're crushed and then you move on like you're still nobody.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what we've learned.
Speaker 1:And you know how that feels. I've never gone on like a thing and been like it's interesting to see how people use the internet, Like I like using it like just to see what's going on and then like I'll release things into the ether and won't tell anybody about them. And then there's other people who go on other people's things and go you suck Like.
Speaker 2:Europe, you, I hate you. I wish I got to that level. No, or people would even find it.
Speaker 1:Dude, it was like that at that comedy show that we did, and I would you never you meet a like a YouTube comment person. You're like, oh, you've commented on a. Oh, that lady I was up doing the thing, yeah, and her boyfriend's car alarm went off and I was taught and then I was like, well, I'll just talk to them because this set's not going well, so maybe I'll just interact with them, and she looked really bored, like you know, remember, in math, just yeah, hate, like was not happy yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like you, yeah, a couple, you and the the board lady, and he, I think, didn't hear what I said and she was like she's not boring. And I was like I'm not saying she's boring, I'm just saying I'm just saying you look bored right now, like ma'am, you look bored. And she's like I'm not bored and I love stand up comedy, but you're not funny at all. I don't like you and you're not funny at all. Wow, and I thought that was actually the best moment of the set because I was like I totally that's an interesting moment, because I was, you know, I didn't know what to say.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So you're like I totally get it. People have opinions. It's totally that's part of life. Different shows are different. I mean, look at it like your boyfriend thinks you're beautiful and I have eyes, which is hilarious, and I got most of the crowd back with that, yeah. And then you came up later on and made a joke and she left, she left.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she got up and walked out.
Speaker 1:She got you, said something that made her go. I'm leaving. I cannot be in this room.
Speaker 2:I can't be here anymore.
Speaker 1:You have ruined this room. Yeah, I'm going to go out and be in.
Speaker 2:I thought that one guy was bad. You're worse, you're worse. I'm getting up and I'm out of here. Now I can't believe you said a joke. Well, that was a tough joke. It's a tough, I mean. I love that it's on the album. Yeah, whatever comes out August 11th, check it out. It's track eight. No, I don't know what track it is. That's exciting, yeah.
Speaker 1:Whatever? You know um that is that it's, yeah, it's, but I don't know it's. It's like the FDR thing. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself and you're like okay, yeah, which is a nonsensical thing in a way. But if you fear the fear, as opposed to being like this is just fear and I think I can make it through this. No-transcript, you'll get through it. Yeah, absolutely, especially when it's a mental obstacle, and then just being like I okay.
Speaker 2:Well, a mental exercise I do all the time, and I'll do it even with my wife, is what's the worst that can happen? And then we'll go through that Okay, what is literally the worst thing that could happen? And then we talk about those things and we go, okay, well, those aren't that bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, those are manageable things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so if that's the worst, I'm willing to do this.
Speaker 1:Well, it was a cozy first world existent problem too.
Speaker 2:You're like. You know Absolutely. Oh no, people on the internet aren't gonna like me.
Speaker 1:Imagine if you woke up and you're like oh, they bombed the Harris teeter today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's not that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh man, we don't have running water now, nope.
Speaker 1:Nope, they took out the grid today, so there's no ATMs and all the food is spoiling and there's a rush on it. Yeah, it's not that, nope. Oh yeah, people might not like me. People might not like my jokes, yeah, and the fact that you like one out of three like you, that's huge because you're helping one out of three people. In a way, if you're putting something out there and they're listening and they're like I'm getting something out of this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, if you're listening to this, holy shit, thank you.
Speaker 1:No, really it means the world it does. If you're feeling a little bit better than from this, that's great.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If you're in the bathtub with the toaster dangling over it or in the car, in the garage.
Speaker 2:Yeah, turn the car off, it's okay, just turn it off.
Speaker 1:Don't, it's not worth it, it's not.
Speaker 2:But I mean, no, but really like it does feel good to know people listen. Yeah, it validates. Again back to validation. Full circle Validation. Yeah, no, breathing Suffocation, don't give a fuck, but I'm something. I'm still breathing. I don't know what this. I don't know about your carnation.
Speaker 1:Bune new master patient. No feeling, Got a belt around my neck. Have you done that?
Speaker 2:No, we haven't really done. I know you joke about it. No, I've never done that. I'm a pretty vanilla guy, same Same.
Speaker 1:That scares me.
Speaker 2:Just sitting and looking at videos.
Speaker 1:I think it fascinates me that people do that. Yeah, pretty extreme.
Speaker 2:That's a good song.